PDA NORTH AMERICA · MONTHLY DISCUSSION GROUP
PDA & Fatherhood
A monthly space for dads and male-identifying caregivers raising PDA kids. No lectures, no fixing. Just dads who understand and want to show up for each other.
When: 2nd Tuesday of every month, 7pm Central · 5pm Pacific · 8pm Eastern
Where: Online (zoom)
Led by: PJ Starling, PDA North America board member and adult PDAer
“I’m not wired for this.”
— A dad from the group
Most of us have said some version of it. Raising a child with a Pathological Demand Avoidance profile turns the parenting playbook we were handed upside down, and fathers often have the most to unlearn, with the least support while doing it.
THE SHIFT NO ONE WARNED US ABOUT
What we were handed, and why it doesn’t work here
Be the authority. Hold the line. Use consequences. Stay calm. Earn respect by being strong and in control. It’s the script most of us absorbed from our fathers, our culture, or both. For most kids it mostly works. With a PDA kid, every piece of it can backfire.
Authority
Triggers a threat response. Things escalate immediately.
Holding the line
The line is a demand. And the demand is the problem.
Logical consequences
They assume compliance as a starting point. A PDA kid can’t get there under pressure.
Staying calm
You’re co-regulating a chronically dysregulated nervous system. Calm alone isn’t the intervention.
WHY IT’S STEEPER FOR FATHERS
The things that made us good at everything else work against us here
The cultural script runs deep
Men absorb the message that control means competent parenting. Admitting the old approach doesn’t work can feel like admitting failure.
We’re parenting against our own fathers
For many of us the only model we have was authoritarian. Unlearning it while parenting in real time is hard.
Partners often get there first
When your co-parent is further along, it can feel like you’re always catching up, or always being corrected.
Our strengths backfire
Problem-solving, holding firm, consistency: the things that succeed at work and elsewhere actively escalate things at home.
The gendered double standard
When a mom breaks down during her child’s meltdown, people offer support. When a dad is dysregulated in the same moment, he gets judged, and left on his own.
“It required me to let go of a lot more than I ever thought I would as a parent.”
— A dad from the group
WHAT THE DADS IN THE GROUP KEEP TELLING US
Where it lands hardest
Eight patterns from a year of monthly conversations, each one raised by more than one father.
01 A world that assumes regulation
Nearly every program, public school first among them, quietly requires a child who is independent and well-regulated. Our kids start outside that line.
02 Judged, not supported
The same overwhelmed moment earns a mother sympathy and a father suspicion. Many dads end up carrying it alone.
03 No off-ramp
You need to breathe and let the day go when you get home. Instead you often walk into a crisis that asks you to push past your own needs and regulate the whole family.
04 Instincts at war
When a meltdown turns physical toward a partner or sibling, a father is wired to protect everyone at once, and there is no clean response.
05 The medication question
We think constantly about whether medication could help our kids regulate, and nearly every option comes with a hard tradeoff.
06 Othered by our own communities
When our kids can’t access the programs everyone else can, communities tend to push us out rather than make room.
07 The constant educator
We’re always explaining PDA and our real home lives, made harder because our kids often mask at school and in public.
08 Regulation required, none offered
School demands self-regulation from our kids, with little or no help at school to regulate or co-regulate.
WHAT WE’RE LEARNING INSTEAD
Not permissiveness. A different kind of leadership.
Collaborative, not directive
Invite rather than instruct. “I wonder if…” instead of “You need to…”
Presence over problem-solving
Sometimes the job is to be with them in the chaos, not to fix it.
Co-regulation before expectations
A dysregulated nervous system can’t meet demands. Regulation comes first, always.
Connection as the strategy
The relationship is the whole intervention, not a prerequisite to compliance.
“It feels like Sisyphus, where the stone keeps rolling uphill no matter how much I push it.”
— A dad from the group
The stone does eventually stop rolling. Not because you got stronger at pushing it, but because you stopped treating it like something you have to push. When the shift happens, your kid starts trusting you instead of bracing against you. Your own dysregulation drops because you’re not in a constant battle. The relationship becomes the thing.
WHO IT’S FOR
Every male caregiver of a PDA person is welcome
Fathers, stepdads, grandfathers, uncles, and male-identifying caregivers of a PDA child, teen or adult. Whether you’ve known about PDA for years or just found the word last week, there’s a seat for you.
Each month we talk about what’s actually happening at home: the hard nights, the small wins, and what we’re trying differently. You’re welcome to talk, or just to listen.
YOUR HOST
PJ “Starling” Letourneau
PJ sits on the Board of Directors of PDA North America. He recognized PDA in himself five years ago, after burning out in his first years as a father, and came to see it as a generational pattern: his father’s, his own, and maybe his son’s. He leads a men’s group in Vancouver and writes Unprogrammable on Substack.
“I don’t always get this right. But the relationship I have with my son is the one I always wanted with my own dad.”
You don’t have to figure this out alone.
Join us on the 2nd Tuesday of the month at 7pm Central (5pm Pacific). Register through PDA North America.
